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Facebook, Guns and The Liberal Mindset

I only recently got my computer back. Seems my eight year old hard drive finally gave up the ghost. I took the opportunity to go on my Facebook page. Yes, I stayed off Facebook the whole three weeks I was computerless, you should try it. Anyway one of the first posts I see was in response to the Florida shooting. One of the people on my “friends” list posted a cartoon showing Wayne La Perrier and a brutish looking man labeled “Guns Inc” dragging a massive bag of profits, standing amid a sea of bloody bodies. The cartoonist has a smiling Wayne saying “Fortunately guns don’t kill people.” The cartoon, misleading as it was, generated an interesting exchange on my wall.

RJ is the individual on my “friends” list. I knew him casually through our employer. After hearing him wax semi eloquently on the glories and accomplishments of Sir Hillary Clinton I realized discretion was the better part of valor and basically avoided him. I never try to start an argument with liberals but I will not shy away either.

The exchange serves as a classic example of how liberals operate. I have recorded the entire thread/ conversation, word for word below. I will only use the participants initials to accord them anonymity. My comments are italicized.

Commenting on the cartoon;

M B: Be sure to list all the abortions too R J. All the drunk drivers that kill daily. All the drug companies. I could go on and on.

I don’t know MB but I know RJ and I don’t doubt he supports abortion on demand. I have to admit I’m not sure how drunk drivers or drug companies fit into the gun control debate. I wish he had gone on just long enough to make the connection for me.

R J: I’m not posting this pic to start up any mean spirited dialogue–keep your hate to yourselves.

Really? Linking the NRA to mass murder isn’t mean spirited? The direct implication that gun manufacturers use murder to profit isn’t mean spirited? What then was your purpose for posting this cartoon, a demonstration of compassion? Notice the knee jerk reflex to classify perceived disagreement as hate.

M B: R J what do you call this picture? It’s pure hate toward gun owners. Your such a hipocrit.

Unless you are a rabid gun control fanatic MB’s description of the cartoon is spot on.

RJ: I’m a gun owner myself asshole–now leave me alone and stay the fuck off MY FACEBOOK page

Now doesn’t this just make everyone feel better? RJ owns a gun and knows some four letter words. I guess RJ means he is the right “type” of gun owner? He reflexively turns to the liberal lexicon, ie profanity, to make his point. Let’s not forget, it’s his Facebook page, how dare you dissent.

Not to be out done in demonstrating his liberal bona fides DT joins the fray.

DT: MB: No abortion has ever killed a room full of people.

Lets admit it, this is a brilliant misdirection. DT has clearly memorized his talking points. I can almost imagine DT biting his lower lip while “tearing up” for the camera. I suppose he has a technical point, you couldn’t fit tens of millions of dead babies even in Michael Moores pantry. I suppose in DT’s world killing babies is fine as long as a gun isn’t used.

Unaware of RJ’s intellectual superiority, another commentator dares to chime in.

GHZ: We have reached the point in this country where stats and body counts are the things that make headlines, not the tragedy itself, like each event is to challenge or outdo the last one, ie: Worst in American history, the most children killed in America, the worst theater shooting in America, etc, etc. Since when do we gloat over our history of violence in this country like we are giving out Oscars for Best Picture? We need to grow up, get pissed off, and stop this carnage from happening, before it becomes just a byline.

Like it or not, GHZ has a point, from the media’s perspective. A long time maxim in the media is, “If it bleeds it leads.” Gun deaths are reported by the “mainstream media” in horse race fashion and have been since they jumped on the gun control bandwagon en mass. GHZ is correct, we need to find a way to stop this kind of violence but I suspect we would disagree on the methods to do so.

RJ: Then let it stop with u GHZ–your hate speech today has been horrific.

Hate speech? Horrific? Seriously? It seems GHZ has hit a nerve here. Having sold some articles to one of the supermarket tabloids, RJ fancies himself a member of that precious media. He simply cannot deal with the facts here. Again, notice the reflexive invocation of “hate speech.” Exactly what was hateful or horrific in GHZ’s post?

GHZ: The media loves the sensationalism. It sells advertising space, and newspapers. It is a sick morbid obsession.

Sadly, GHZ has a point here too. Like Piers Morgan standing on the bodies of the Sandy Hook victims or the perky Katie Curic deceptively editing her gun control “documentary”, the media will stoop to any low to get their agenda across. It is a fact proven by its perpetrators almost daily.

RJ: Well then that should give u something to read while you’re incarcerated! Now, as I told u earlier, leave me alone.

Well alrighty then. A fine example of liberal tolerance here RJ. I mean, how dare these peasants, having been labeled as haters by the all knowing you, continue to address his highness. Apparently it is now criminal to disagree with Sir RJ. Oh, and you peasants need to stop it with the reality stuff, it messes up RJ’s carefully constructed fantasy world. Besides, I’m certain the Enquirer is desperately trying to get him to finish his article on how black lesbian platypus are being discriminated against by local Christian zoo keepers.

Yes I am picking on RJ. Remember, I know him. For the millions of folks like RJ, this is what passes as intelligent debate on gun control or any other subject. How sad is that?

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Same Agenda Same Results

I think little Barry learned his history well. It may be a cliché for many people to say that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. It is another cliché to say that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I think the reason these time worn “cliches” still resonate is because they are true. As for what Kitty Werthmann witnessed then, and is witnessing to now, does anyone else see the pattern? If so, what are you willing to do about it?

Kitty Werthmann , December 22, 2012

“What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or read in history books,” she likes to tell audiences.

“I am a witness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasn’t so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.”

“We elected him by a landslide – 98 percent of the vote,” she recalls.

She wasn’t old enough to vote in 1938 – approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

“Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.”

No so. Hitler is welcomed to Austria

“In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were go- ing from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs.

“My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.’

“We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933.” she recalls. “We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

Austrian girls welcome Hitler

“Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group – Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

“Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

“We were overjoyed,” remembers Kitty, “and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

Austrians saluting

“After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

“Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

“Then we lost religious education for kids

Poster promoting “Hitler Youth”

“Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang ‘Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,’ and had physical education.

“Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.”
And then things got worse.

“The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

“We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

“My mother was very unhappy,” remembers Kitty. “When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no sports, and no political indoctrination.

“I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

A pro-Hitler rally

“Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

“It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

“In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death.

“Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

“Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

Young Austrians

“It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps,” remembers Kitty. “During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

“They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.
“When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.
“Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

“When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

“The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

“Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna.

“After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

“When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

“If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

“As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

“All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

“We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

“We had consumer protection, too

Austrian kids loyal to Hitler

“We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

“In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which in the winter were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.

“I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

“They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

“As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

“Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.”

“It’s true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.”

“America is truly is the greatest country in the world. Don’t let freedom slip away. After America, there is no place to go.”

Kitty Werthmann

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Arming Teachers

The school shooting in Connecticut recently has produced a wide variety of possible “solutions” for the problem of school shootings. The loudest “solutions” seem to be offered by ideologically driven liberals whose only intent seems to be the disarming of law-abiding citizens. I have covered this aspect of the debate in a previous column, Here We Go Again.

One solution, offered by some is to allow teachers to be armed. It may come as a surprise to many but there are several countries, Israel for one, that allow teachers to be armed in the classroom. The typical liberal response to an idea that deserves serious consideration came from Carol Lear. “It’s a terrible idea,” said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education. “It’s a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea.” Lear it seems would prefer students be assassinated in an orderly fashion rather than have a teacher trained to use a firearm protect them.

I agree it is not the perfect solution, but I have to wonder about someone who seems to think it is better to have students sitting around defenseless waiting to be shot or turning their backs to a loaded gun and hoping not to be killed. Despite Ms. Lears best intentions, these are not real options and anyone who thinks they are is, in my mind anyway clinically insane.

If it is decided to allow teachers to “carry” in school there should be some guidelines. For starters the teacher must at least have their concealed carry permit. Being former military and a licensed armed security officer I completely understand and would insist on substantial training requirements for any teacher wanting to “carry” in school. I have been in “shots fired” situations and only solid training prevented the situation from deteriorating more than it already had.

Secondly, the weapon must be easily concealed. There are many small, easily concealed handguns in a variety of caliber’s. Armed teachers do not need .44 Magnum revolvers. A 9mm, .380 or even .22 is an effective deterrent when seen from the business end. The goal of the teacher should be to protect their students until law enforcement arrives. A warning shot may be all that’s needed to send a shooter away from a classroom full of children. It is an old cliché but it is sadly true, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Third, the weapon should be carried on the teachers person at all times. This means no stashing it in a purse, briefcase, locker or staff lounge. While it may be possible for someone to run out to their car and retrieve a weapon I can think of two reasons not carrying is dangerous. First, by leaving the scene those you should be protecting are left to fend for themselves. Second, when you return to the scene you have no idea what has changed. Where is the bad guy etc. To be of any value the weapon must be readily available.

Fourth, the weapon should only be loaded with hollow point ammo. This helps to limit over penetration, ie going through walls. It would be of little consolation to stop a shooter but have someone injured or killed by a shot that missed its target and hit someone through a wall.

Finally, the weapon should be unadvertised. By that I mean no one knows you have it. Ask any teacher and you will find that there are no secrets in a school. I know this because I was a PTA president for three years. If the teachers who want to carry have to be on a list kept by the administration it wont be long before they are all revealed. Lets be honest, all school shooters are cowards. That means the first person they are going to shoot is the one they think will shoot back. Not knowing who or how many that may be could be all the deterrent needed. As long as you are trained I have no problem with you “carrying” and my not knowing.

As for Carol Lear, I wonder if she is just waiting for something to happen here in Utah. Then she can resign her state job and make millions suing the state of Utah for “failing to protect their students from armed assailants.” It would be the liberal, lawyerly thing to do.

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